The Best of The Axe Files: Jon Meacham

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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🗓️ 28 November 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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This Thanksgiving, we’re revisiting a conversation with historian and writer Jon Meacham on his book, “And There Was Light: Abraham Lincoln and the American Struggle.” The book dives deep into Lincoln and the why behind the actions of America’s 16th president, from personal to political. Jon joined David to talk about Lincoln’s anti-slavery roots, what Lincoln can teach us about the current political moment, the moral decisions we face as a country, and what qualities make a great American president. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:35.4	And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, The Axe Files, with your host, David Axelrod.
0:48.5	Since Abraham Lincoln was the president who first proclaimed the Thanksgiving holiday, we thought on this holiday weekend,
0:56.2	we would share this special episode from the Axfiles Archives. It's a conversation I had with one of
1:01.8	our greatest historians, John Meacham, on the publication of, And There Was Light, his excellent biography of our
1:09.1	greatest president. Here's that conversation.
1:19.7	John Meacham, it's great to see you again. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. You've been productive,
1:26.5	as always, since the last time we got together.
1:29.7	And I urge people to go and listen to that podcast because we very much focused on your life and career during that podcast.
1:37.7	But recently, it should have been less recently, but I read your book, your latest book, and there was light, Abraham Lincoln
1:47.5	and the American struggle. First of all, there are 15,000 books on Lincoln. I read that the only
1:55.9	figure who has more biographies written is Jesus Christ. Yep, that's right.
2:03.9	So what made you say, you know what?
2:07.9	There's something to be said here that hasn't been said, and I need to say it.
2:11.3	Well, the interview with Jesus was tough to get.
2:14.3	Yeah, good for you, by the way.
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