Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your city bike on the red carpet of music news and criticism.

I'm John Caramonica, a critic at the New York Times.

I'm Joe Oscar Elliott reporter at the New York Times.

How many years can a mountain exist before it is washed to the sea?

Are your ears deceiving you?

Are you familiar with this music that is being played?

You're thinking, well, damn, damn if that isn't Bob Dylan.

Damn if it's not Bob Dylan.

And I'll tell you what, damn, it's not Bob Dylan. It's the boy Timmy Chalameh as Bob Dylan. It's not Bob Dylan. And I'll tell you what, damn, it's not Bob Dylan. It's the boy Timmy

Shalameh as Bob Dylan. It's Monica Barbarro as Joan Baez singing, blowing in the wind from a

complete unknown. Timmy's version. Yes, Tim, that's correct. With nasal, nasolness intact,

to Timmy's credit.

We both recently saw a complete unknown, which is the sort of a bio.

I would dare, we're going to get into this, but dare I say it's a concert film cosplaying as a biopic.

Yes.

We're going to talk a little bit about a complete unknown.

We're going to talk about the performances.

We're going to talk about early Bob Dylan, who I am pleased to report was a great musician.

You were into the songs? Yeah. Pretty good songs. Pretty good songs.

Especially in their minute and a half version. You know, like they're very edited.

Yes. I have a friend whose main takeaway from this movie after going back and listening to Bob Dylan

songs was like, you know, they could all be a little bit shorter.

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