Are the Grammys … Good Now? Beyoncé, Chappell, Billie, Kendrick & Taylor Face Off

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The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Previewing the major categories and making our personal picks of who will win vs. who should win at the surprisingly relevant (!) Grammy Awards on Sunday.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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0:00.0	5, 6, 5, 6, 7, 8.
0:05.6	Welcome to the New York Times popcast, you're a Tony Bennett duet of the music, music, music, and criticism.
0:10.3	I'm John Carmonica, a critic of the New York Times.
0:12.6	I'm Joe Coscarly. I'm a reporter at the New York Times.
0:24.5	Joe, you know what I'm talking about.
0:27.5	Talking about the Grammys, the Grammys are back.
0:28.5	They're coming up this weekend.
0:30.5	What is your level of dread?
0:32.7	What's your level of, like, sense of foreboding?
0:38.4	What if I told you that the Grammys are okay this year?
0:40.7	I do kind of know that to be true.
0:42.0	The nominations, at least.
0:42.5	Yeah.
0:48.9	I do think it's really hard to look at this full slate of nominees and not feel like this is pretty much what happened in popular music in 2024.
0:53.1	So you're pro Grammys?
0:54.4	I would say I've softened towards the Grammys.
0:56.7	I think between the two of us,
0:58.1	we've probably been covering this show
1:00.4	for a quarter of a century.
1:02.7	Stop.
1:03.9	Cumulatively.
1:04.5	How dare you say that to such a young person as myself?
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