Okay, we're back with uh with another after show their Tyler Bell. This is episode three

season two, the drunkard Dennis Nilsen. Oh yeah, man. Welcome. Welcome back everybody. Welcome

back to the after show. He is uh he's he's one of the more well known cases that we've actually

covered and he killed actually between 12 and 15 boys. Well, not not all just boys. I mean,

some of guys were in there. Boys to men. Boys to men. Great, great, great. But it was uh you know

as usual, it was it was a difficult case to cover. Uh huh. But but we did it. Can't cover every

single victim, but you get the gist. Um he was see Dennis Nilsen was he didn't he didn't have

this type of childhood that would indicate that he would become who he became. But he did have a

few strange things that happened. Um he he was very close to his grandfather. Um and his grandfather

ended up dying on a fishing trip when he was like in his 60s and that always stuck with him that

he died in water. He didn't drown, but he died. I believe he died in the boat. And when he was

when he was observing his grandfather in the coffin, his mother said to him, he's just sleeping.

Huh. And uh that might have done something to him. After that, he began to molest his brothers

and sisters as they were sleeping. And you know, soon after that realized he was a a homosexual and

just a very screwed up guy. Military service. You know, enjoy being a round man quite a bit.

Anyways, I don't need to like talk about everything I want. That wasn't necessarily what he was

the way he phrased that he was molesting his brothers and his sisters and then he realized he

was a homosexual. Was he like molesting his sister? Was like, oh, not for me. Yeah. I think so.

Fucking what? Oh, God. And then he enjoyed the military and snow. Yeah. He enjoyed the come

come rotary, you know, with other men. Um, and then eventually obviously ended up killing a whole

bunch of them. And he would he would say later on that he didn't mean to kill him. It's just so

when he got drunk, he became overcome with this impulse to do so and then to possess them.

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