The Formula for Capturing Your Attention, Price of Fame, & Algorithms as Editors — With Chris Hayes

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

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4.6 • 395 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Chris Hayes is the author of The Siren's Call: How Attention Became The World's Most Endangered Resource and the host of MSNBC's All In With Chris Hayes. He joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss his No. 1 bestselling book, digging into why he wrote it, how news differs from social platforms (and to what degree), and why We also cover the strange psychology of fame, how figures like Trump and Musk weild attention for political power, and why most social platforms are seeing declining user engagement despite their algorithmic optimization. Hit play for a conversation that reveals why our relationship with technology resembles our relationship with food — a biological necessity transformed into an unhealthy craving that reflects deeper voids in modern life. --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. For weekly updates on the show, sign up for the pod newsletter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/6901970121829801984/ Questions? Feedback? Write to: [email protected]

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0:00.0	MSNBC host Chris Hayes is here to talk with us about attention, online fame, and what it's doing to all of us.
0:07.0	That's coming up right after this.
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0:43.3	Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech world
0:48.2	and beyond.
0:49.4	Today we're joined by Chris Hayes.
0:51.4	He is the MSNBC host of All In with Chris Hayes and the author of the
0:56.2	number one bestselling new book, The Sirens Call, How Attention became the world's most
1:00.8	endangered resource. It's going to be a great show and so excited to welcome Chris. Chris,
1:05.1	great to see you. Welcome to the show. It's great to be here. So you wrote a whole book about
1:09.1	attention. It's number one New York Times bestseller.
1:12.0	And I just find it funny that a cable news TV guy wrote a book about attention.
1:17.5	Why?
1:18.1	Because I, well, to me it makes perfect sense because the whole reason I wrote the book
1:23.0	is precisely because all I do is work on getting and holding people's attention.
1:28.9	No, the weird thing to me is...
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