Hello this is Eat Sleep Workup, Pete.

This podcast about workplace culture

and how we can all make our jobs better, I'm Bruce Dasley.

Now, if you're new here, this podcast is for anyone in work who just wants to create a better

more motivated version of their jobs whether you're in control or just dreaming that you might

be one day and it's a truism that there's as many cultures

inside organizations as there are managers.

This podcast tries to give you the tools

to create the culture you're in for the team that you're part of.

In the show notes I've listed about five episodes you might have missed in the past.

There's a really good one about the Edelman Trust report and how there's less trust in society right now and how that's a vital part of a good workplace culture.

There's a good discussion with Professor Francis Fry about what she does when she goes in to fix other company cultures.

Some really good episodes from recent history.

Today's discussion is with someone who's a podcaster and writer about work who probably

is adjacent to this podcast as anyone else.

Isabel Beric runs a podcast called Working It, which is part of the Financial Times,

and it's been essential listening for the last couple of years really.

It's a podcast that creates these beautiful sort of often 10-15-minute hits going deep on an issue that just hit the agenda and

Isabelle Berwick is just a fantastic brain on what's happening in the world of work

her specials on the four-day working week or on how to implement meeting-free days are a fantastic listen.

I was really thrilled to get the opportunity to talk to us about, just to pick her brains really about where work is, what she's learned in two and a half years of doing

her own podcast and where she thinks work's going next.

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