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The long road ahead for British AI – Jonathan Berry, former AI minister

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🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Berry, Viscount Camrose and former Conservative AI minister, discusses how artificial intelligence policy has changed with the Labour government, why the work it must do is difficult but necessary and why clarity on AI regulation is vital for businesses.  

  

Berry is a hereditary peer in the House of Lords and served as the minister responsible for AI and intellectual property under former prime minister Rishi Sunak. During his time at the tech department, Berry was key in organising the UK's AI Safety Summit in Bletchley Park in 2023. 

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0:00.0

It's exactly the right approach.

0:09.9

I absolutely congratulate and endorse the government on following that through.

0:14.2

I think were we still in power, I think we would have done something.

0:18.0

I hope we would have done something very similar.

0:22.6

Absolutely. And I think let's none of us even think about politicizing any of this.

0:27.6

That would be absolutely wrong. We all need to make this right and I'll absolutely support them in their work to do it.

0:37.6

One of the problems that we all know is that we, in common with everybody else,

0:43.2

are not producing enough graduates with relevant skills to AI.

0:59.3

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1:26.9

Hello and welcome to the UKTM podcast, a weekly chat with the movers and shakers of the UK tech industry and the destination for all things UK tech related.

1:37.3

I'm your host, Jane Wakefield, and today I'm joined by Jonathan Berry, the 5th Viscount Camrose, also the Shadow AI Minister and

1:46.0

Senior Council and Board Member at Ed Tech firm Lumi. Welcome, Jonathan.

1:51.4

Thank you very much, and what a pleasure to be here. Now, that's a lot of titles you've got

1:54.8

there, a lot of jobs keeping you very busy. I wanted to start off by talking a little bit about

1:59.9

AI. We'll talk about your role in that in a minute, but first of all, I just wanted to start off by talking a little bit about AI. We'll talk about your role in that

2:02.5

in a minute. But first of all, I just wanted to get your take on what you think of Labor's AI

2:07.1

policies. You know, you started a strategy. How do you feel it's been carried on by the Labour Party?

2:14.2

I mean, obviously, AI is this very, very fast-moving space.

2:18.8

I think, you know, we in government took a view that, you know,

2:23.0

you can't really write legislation fast enough to kind of keep up with AI.

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