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Revisionist History

The RFK Jr. Problem

Revisionist History

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, History

4.861.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Malcolm investigates the origins of what the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services believes (and doesn’t believe) about viruses.


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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.6

I recently called up my friend Safi Bacall.

0:14.0

I wanted to see if he could correctly guess the answer to a puzzle.

0:18.8

First of all, before we start, I just wanted to briefly establish your bona fides for this conversation.

0:24.0

You have a PhD from MIT, is that correct?

0:30.5

Stanford.

0:31.1

Stanford, Stanford.

0:32.8

And you went on to work on the development of a number of different uh of drugs so that's correct

0:41.6

i did sophie ran a drug company for a long time that worked on some of the hardest problems

0:47.2

in cancer treatment in preparation for our call i sent sophy the package insert for something called Rotatech.

0:55.6

As I'm sure you've noticed, when you get a prescription drug, there's a leaflet inside the box.

1:00.9

I'll fold it up tiny print. That's the package insert. It tells you in great detail

1:06.2

every benefit, every side effect, every clinical study associated with your medication.

1:12.2

The Food and Drug Administration and drug companies spend years working out the exact

1:17.3

wording of that leaflet.

1:19.5

I'm assuming you've never read this before.

1:22.1

Never read it before.

1:23.0

Just saw it 20 minutes ago, whenever you sent it.

1:26.3

Rototech is a vaccine to protect babies against a very nasty intestinal bug called rotavirus.

1:33.8

What Safi first noticed was how well it worked.

1:36.5

Where I go to right away, that's interesting, is the efficacy data, which is post-marketing, adverse events, description, drug interactions,

1:50.5

clinical studies, section 14. Yeah, that's amazing. You look at table 8 on age 10 or whatever.

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