The scandalous but genius Mother of the Mind-Body Revolution

CLEANING UP YOUR MENTAL MESS with Dr. Caroline Leaf

Dr. Caroline Leaf

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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In this podcast I interview bestselling author and journalist Pamela Ryckman about her new book, Candace Pert: Genius, Greed, and Madness in the World of Science, Pamela talks about the life and career of one of the leading researchers of the mind, brain and body connection, the renowned neuropharmacologist Candace Pert. As Pamela notes, she played pivotal roles in major movements in both science and politics.

Unfortunately, she was sabotaged by mentors and colleagues keen to profit from her brilliance. But, as Pamela discusses in her book, Candace also became tainted, “believing that her noble ends would justify devious means.”

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Dr. Caroline Leaf and welcome to my podcast Cleaning Up the Mental Mess.
0:10.0	As a scientist, every new discovery comes from standing on the shoulders of the giants you came before us.
0:16.0	Today we're going to talk about the story of the Maverick scientist Candace Pert, one of my giants whose groundbreaking research and book Molecules of Emotion
0:24.8	introduced the world to the mind-body connection, opioid receptors, and peptide tea.
0:30.2	I talk with the brilliant Pamela Rickman who's a journalist, author and producer about the book she's written about Candis Purt called Candis Purt genius greed and madness in the world of science. We talk about Candice Pert's incredible
0:43.8	groundbreaking research about being overlooked for a well-deserved Nobel Prize and
0:48.1	her fight for recognition in a toxic health care system dominated by males and how this backfired.
0:54.0	We dive deep into the public health care system that isn't always as healthy as it seems.
0:59.0	So let's begin.
1:00.0	Pamela, I have been so looking forward to this interview. You're phenomenal. I have read this
1:08.8	your book Candace Pert. You can hold it up there. I've left mine in Miami, but I can hold it up on my phone. I have read this book from cover to cover. I have listened to, I think every interview you've ever done just about everything, not just about Candace Pert, but your work in general and what you've done for women.
1:24.0	It is an honor and a privilege to interview you and to talk about what is probably one of the most
1:28.9	important things that we can talk about and that is what's happening in mental health, a health profession, and you know how
1:35.2	women get overlooked in research and science and all these amazing things. So welcome to my
1:40.6	podcast. Thank you so much.
1:42.7	It's an honor to be here and more than any,
1:45.3	just about anyone, I was thrilled to talk to you
1:47.6	because I have followed your work and your podcast.
1:50.8	And I just feel like you and Candice are spiritual sisters.
1:54.1	So this is, you know, and I came to Candice because of my profound interest in mind-body,
2:00.1	you know, in integrative health, in holistic health, in the mind-body connection.
2:04.1	That's how I discovered her to begin with.
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