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🗓️ 25 February 2024
⏱️ 29 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Ezra Marcus. I'm a contributing writer to the New York Times magazine. |
0:11.5 | This week's Sunday Reed is my profile of a Bay Area rapper who goes by the name of |
0:16.8 | Burner. He's a guy you've probably never heard of who in all fairness is not the most accomplished rapper. But he somehow |
0:27.0 | always ends up alongside Jay Z and Kanya on these lists of the five richest rappers in the world. |
0:35.0 | That's because Burner is the CEO of cookies, |
0:39.0 | one of the largest most well-known legal cannabis brands in the United States. |
0:45.0 | Maybe THE best known. |
0:47.0 | And what makes Burner fascinating is that in a way he embodies the current state of the cannabis industry as a whole. |
0:56.0 | On the one side, a weed industry that's legal and yet completely hamstrung by regulation. |
1:02.0 | And on the other, a black market that's still thriving, |
1:06.4 | and even facilitated by the supply from the legal side. |
1:11.2 | A couple decades ago, Burner was working at a medical marijuana dispensary while also |
1:17.0 | dealing weed on the street. |
1:19.6 | Weed was on the cusp of becoming recreationally legal in California, and Burner saw an opportunity. |
1:27.2 | He noticed that when he draw colorful labels for weed strains, they'd sell better. Branding is really important, he figured. |
1:35.0 | And so he started using rap music as a marketing tool. |
1:40.0 | He made songs with famous rappers like Wiz Khalifa who embody cannabis as a lifestyle. |
1:46.0 | And he built his brand around a novel strain of weed called Girl Scout cookies. |
1:56.7 | He would give out three quarter pounds of it to dealers to spread awareness. It turned burner into an iconic figure. By the 2010s, Burner was selling |
2:07.0 | t-shirts and hoodies with a cookies logo on them. Then, after Cannabis was legalized, he partnered with investors who transformed |
2:16.6 | cookies into a real company. But cookies is different from these other large corporate cannabis companies which give off a kind of safe almost medical consumer product kind of vibe. |
2:30.5 | cookies trades on the romance of the black market and the subcultural |
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