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🗓️ 17 April 2025
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0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams. This is the Daily. |
0:15.1 | Testimonys began this week in one of the most aggressive cases the government has ever brought against a big tech company. |
0:22.1 | And over the next eight weeks, the Federal Trade Commission, will argue that Mehta, |
0:26.8 | the company founded by Mark Zuckerberg in his college dorm room, should be broken up. |
0:32.3 | Today, my colleague Cecilia Kang on the strange and contentious relationship between Zuckerberg |
0:38.5 | and President Trump that has led to this moment and what the case means for both of them. |
0:46.4 | It's Thursday, April 17th. |
0:59.6 | Cecilia, you are talking to me from your car, I believe. |
1:02.2 | Why are you talking to me from your car? |
1:14.1 | Yeah, I had to run to my car because I'm on a lunch break during an antitrust trial where the Federal Trade Commission is seeking to break up META. And this is a really high-stakes case for META and for Mark Zuckerberg because this case really threatens the |
1:20.7 | company's entire existence. It's existential because the government is trying to break up |
1:26.5 | this company that he co-founded two decades ago. |
1:30.8 | And I've just spent the first half of this week watching Zuckerberg testify as the first |
1:37.2 | and star witness in the government's case against META. |
1:41.7 | And when I go back, he will finish up and then we will have the former |
1:46.0 | chief operating officer, Cheryl Samburg, testify. What's the first week been like? |
1:51.9 | It's been pretty crazy, long lines to get into the courtroom. The courtroom itself is full of |
1:59.9 | META's many, many lawyers, as well as the FTC's lawyers and media, |
2:05.9 | and a lot of just people from the public. |
2:07.8 | And it's interesting because up until really the minutes before the trial began, I wasn't even |
2:13.6 | sure that it was going to happen. |
2:16.0 | Why is that? |
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