The True Root Cause of Chronic Pain and How To Manage it Using the Latest Science with Dr. Howard Schubiner
Dhru Purohit Show
Dhru Purohit
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🗓️ 12 February 2024
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Chronic pain impacts millions of people, and yet traditional methods focus solely on pain management, failing to address the root cause of the pain. Today’s guest is here to share a groundbreaking approach to treating pain, revealing that the brain creates pain as a signal of an underlying emotional issue that needs to be addressed, and treatment can be achieved by rewiring our brains.
Today, on The Dhru Purohit Podcast, Dhru sits down with Dr. Howard Schubiner to discuss why chronic pain is more prevalent and how it is connected to our brains. Dr. Schubiner explains why the current approach to pain management is flawed and why Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy has been clinically proven to be more effective in treating chronic pain compared to traditional forms of treatment. He also explores how adverse childhood experiences can trigger chronic pain later in life and how we can rewire our brains, ultimately changing our response to pain.
Dr. Howard Schubiner is an internist, pediatrician, and the Mind-Body Medicine Center director at Ascension Providence Hospital in Southfield, Michigan. He is a clinical professor at the Michigan State University College of Human Medicine and has authored more than 100 publications in scientific journals and books, including three books, Unlearn Your Pain.
In this episode, Dhru and Dr. Schubiner dive into (audio version / Apple Subscriber version):
- Why back pain has doubled in the last twenty years (2:24 / 2:24)
- What is pain in the body (5:36 / 5:36)
- The current approach to pain and pain management is broken (11:13 / 8:55)
- The Symptom Perception Model and its effectiveness (18:30 / 16:09)
- Incentives that lead to failure in the system (20:03 / 17:45)
- Why MRIs don’t provide a complete picture of the pain (25:00 / 23:07)
- Adverse childhood experiences and the relationship to pain (31:50 / 28:00)
- Awareness of how the brain generates pain (37:15 / 33:09)
- Tools for assessing and combating pain (44:51 / 40:54)
- Pain reprocessing therapy: Changing your response to the pain (51:38 / 47:46)
- What is Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (59:50 / 56:00)
- Next steps on addressing chronic pain (1:21:00 / 1:17:13)
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| 0:00.0 | All pain is generated in the brain and all pain is real, not imaginary, not fake. |
| 0:07.0 | There's no such thing as, well, this pain is real because I have an injury and this pain isn't real because I don't |
| 0:12.0 | because research shows that stress because I have an injury and this pain isn't real because I don't have an injury. |
| 0:13.5 | Because research shows that stress and emotions activate the exact same parts of the brain |
| 0:19.3 | as does a physical injury. |
| 0:21.0 | And this is my goal. |
| 0:30.0 | If you're someone who's struggling with chronic pain and suffering through life, today's episode is absolutely for you. |
| 0:33.0 | Hi everyone, Drew Brod here. |
| 0:34.4 | Today's guest is Dr. Howard Schubner |
| 0:37.0 | and he's here to talk about the important topic of chronic pain |
| 0:40.3 | and most importantly, teach us |
| 0:42.3 | and walk us through the path of unlearning our pain |
| 0:45.5 | by getting to the root cause of understanding where it comes from. Now a little bit |
| 0:49.8 | more about Dr. Howard Schubner. Dr. Howard Schubner is an internist pediatrician |
| 0:53.8 | and the director of the Mind Body Medicine Center |
| 0:56.1 | at Assenson Providence Hospital in Southern Field Michigan. |
| 0:59.2 | He's a clinical professor at the Michigan State University |
| 1:01.8 | College of Human Medicine and has authored more than a hundred publications in scientific journals and books. |
| 1:08.0 | Dr. Howard Schubner is the author of three books, Unlearn your pain, unlelearn Your Anxiety and Depression, and Hidden From View, a practical |
| 1:16.0 | handbook for clinicians written with Dr. Alan Abbis. |
| 1:19.4 | He's collaborated extensively with Dr. Mark Rumbly, a professor of psychology at Wayne State University |
| 1:25.2 | in a series of studies to develop psychological treatments for chronic pain, which we'll be talking |
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