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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

The Trump vs Harris Showdown

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6 • 252 Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

There’s only one story in town – actually, there’s only one story on the planet. And that’s Joe Biden’s decision to pull out of the presidential race – and vice president Kamala Harris’ coronation as the new Democrat candidate to face Donald Trump in November. Mark Landler of the New York Times is back on the podcast to reflect on an absolutely momentous week in US politics, what Biden’s exit means for the presidential race, and what this all means for the UK. PLUS: What is the government’s public service inheritance – and how will public services look by the next general election if the government sticks to its spending plans? A new IfG report has the answers. Hannah White presents, with Alex Thomas and Stuart Hoddinott. Produced by Candice McKenzie. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government. I'm Hannah White.

0:14.9

There's only one story in town this week. It's making all the headlines and the political consequences could be huge. But we're going to

0:22.2

discuss the IFG's new public services report a bit later on. Instead, this podcast is going to begin

0:27.5

by exploring another story that has caught the eye this week. And that's Joe Biden's decision

0:32.1

to pull out of the presidential race and Vice President Kamala Harris's coronation as the new Democrat candidate to face

0:39.5

Donald Trump in November. It's a decision that has sent shockwaves through the US and tremors

0:44.6

around the world and we're still 100 days out from polling day. Joining me again today is

0:50.2

IFG program director Alex Thomas. Hi Alex. Hello, Hannah. And I'm really delighted to be joined by

0:56.7

New York Times London Bureau Chief Mark Lander. Hi, Mark. Hi, Hannah. Thanks for having me. It's great

1:02.8

to have you back on the pod. Now, Alex, let's begin by listening again to what you said on last

1:09.4

week's podcast, which we recorded just before the

1:12.4

weekend.

1:17.6

We're recording this on Friday lunchtime. It seems like anything could happen with President

1:22.2

Biden in the course of the next 48 hours or so if the race is thrown into sort of complete flux if he drops out,

1:30.3

who knows where that will land.

1:32.3

So it wouldn't make any assumptions about anything really yet.

1:37.1

So Alex, you saw this one coming.

1:39.8

Well, this is, is it what a terrible ego trip.

1:42.1

It's either very good or very bad for the ego.

1:43.9

But I also don't think just before last weekend, it wasn't... This is, is it what a terrible ego trip. It's either very good or very bad for the ego.

1:53.2

But I also don't think, just before last weekend, it wasn't that difficult to predict that Joe Biden was in trouble and the things were starting to move. But then, yeah, it all happened very quickly.

1:56.6

The critical thing, very interesting, what Mark thinks about it, but was Nancy Pelosi and her

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