The Two-State Solution - with Haviv Rettig Gur

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🗓️ 18 December 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

We are increasingly hearing from policymakers in the U.S. and around the world about re-starting the path to a two-state solution after the war. That is our focus today in our weekly check-in with Haviv Rettig Gur. Is there a path to a two-state solution in the near or medium term? If so, what has changed where the two-state solution has failed in the past. We also discuss a more optimistic take on the differences between the Israeli Government and the Biden administration.

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0:00.0	Imagine the American political context, someone whose identity is on the cutting edge of an American culture war,
0:06.4	walking into a non-alcoholic bar for teenagers and blowing themselves up and killing 24 teenagers, happened in 2001 at the Delphinarium.
0:16.3	The right-wing response won't be complicated because it will be validated.
0:20.2	The progressive response might be very wise, it might be very heartfelt, it might be very thoughtful,
0:24.5	it might be very careful after that first bombing. What does it look like after the fourth bombing? What does it look like after the
0:30.0	12th bombing? What does it look like after the 111th bombing? 140 bombings, exactly on the cutting
0:38.1	edge of a peace process that had splintered the country in two and a Prime Minister was assassinated on that question.
0:44.8	And the only Palestinian response they ever really got
0:48.3	was 140 suicide bombings.
0:50.1	October 7, in the Israeli mind was an extension of the second intifada.
0:56.0	Was Hamas saying, oh and by the way, what you learned there forever more.
1:01.0	So you are now fighting an Israeli absolute conviction among the vast majority of
1:06.5	Israeli Jews including leftist who want a Palestinian state that the Palestinian national
1:10.8	movement all it will ever deliver from any Israeli concession, is a catastrophe.
1:17.2	How do you fix that?
1:18.6	But the moment of opportunity comes from the conservative Sunni world that actually want an Israeli peace and Israeli integration. It is a 11 p.m. in New York City on Sunday December 17th. It is 6 a.m. in Israel on the morning of Monday, December 18th as Israelis are getting ready to start their day.
1:49.0	We continue to monitor the Israeli hostage families movement a growing movement that is
1:54.8	pressuring the Israeli government. We will have a longer conversation about that
1:59.2	movement in the weeks ahead as that movement gets more and more attention and continues to
2:04.8	exert more and more pressure on the government. It is believed that there are
2:08.6	128 Israeli hostages still in Gaza. The IDF has confirmed the deaths of 21 of them in Gaza.
2:18.0	During the week-long pause in fighting late last month, 105 hostages were returned. Four hostages had been released
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