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KERA's Think

The uncertain future of DEI

KERA's Think

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Kera, Think, Krysboyd

4.8861 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Corporations embraced D.E.I. efforts after George Floyd’s murder, and now we’re seeing an about-face. Pavithra Moha, staff writer for Fast Company’s Work Life section, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss the backtrack of corporate D.E.I. efforts, how President Trump’s directives have cooled or eliminated programs put in place to attract or retain historically marginalized workers, and what employees think of shifting workplace values.

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0:00.0

Within days, after George Floyd's murder by a white officer went viral on social media,

0:15.7

millions of Americans were calling for change, not only to disproportionate police violence

0:20.8

carried out against

0:21.4

people of color, but to the way certain identities seemed destined to shape our access to opportunity

0:27.1

regardless of work ethic or skills. Huge companies like Target, Meta, and Amazon very publicly

0:33.6

committed to diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. And then almost as quickly as they

0:39.6

ramped these efforts up recently, they ramped right back down again. From KERA in Dallas,

0:46.0

this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. President Trump signed an executive order to end DEI requirements

0:52.1

across the federal government, which has a knock-on effect among

0:55.6

federal contractors no longer required to meet those goals. But the pullback in corporate America

1:00.7

extends well beyond organizations looking to do business with the government. And all that change

1:06.1

leaves many people wondering, why did companies go all in on DEI in the first place and why do they perceive

1:12.3

so much risk with continuing now? Pavithra Mohan is a staff writer for Fast Company's Work Life

1:18.7

Section where she's been tracking the wide-ranging retreat from DEI goals at U.S.

1:23.2

Workplaces. Pivotra, welcome to think. Thank you so much for having me. I'm happy to be here.

1:28.3

Just for a little background here, what is the historical link between contemporary programs

1:33.1

that we call DEI and the Civil Rights Act of 1964? So I think, you know, a lot of these programs

1:39.3

really are rooted in kind of the values of the Civil Rights Act. They really did grow out of those efforts to

1:46.8

promote racial equity in the workplace. And actually, a good example of that is one of the

1:52.3

executive orders that President Johnson had put in place that President Trump has now tried to revoke

1:58.6

in one of his recent executive actions. That was a really critical order that addressed discriminatory hiring practices across federal contractors,

2:06.6

and it was really critical to promoting racial equity.

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