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🗓️ 23 April 2025
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0:00.0 | From New York Times opinion, this is the Ezra Klein Show. A number of people I respect and often agree with have been making different versions of the same point. |
0:37.8 | Immigration is one of Trump's best issues and one of the worst issues for Democrats. |
0:42.5 | The economy is where Trump is now weak. |
0:45.0 | So if you really care about the dangers Donald Trump poses, you need to beat him. |
0:49.1 | And that means focusing the country's attention on his worst issues, the places where he is most beatable. |
0:54.8 | Nate Silver, submit aversion his argument, and so did California Governor Gavin Newsom. |
1:01.2 | Yeah, it's a, you know, this is the distraction of the day, the art of distraction. |
1:07.8 | Don't get distracted by distractions we say, and here we zig and zag. |
1:12.9 | This is the debate they want. This is their 80, 20 issue, as they've described it. |
1:19.3 | And I want to give this argument, it's due. It's not without merit. |
1:22.8 | Optimal political strategy is usually to keep the focus on your opponent's worst issues. |
1:29.0 | For Donald Trump right now, |
1:35.1 | it's his decision to light the global economy on fire. From that perspective, focusing on Abrago-Garcia is a distraction. Trump's meeting with President Buchele is a distraction. And getting distracted |
1:40.6 | is bad politics. Focus on the tariffs. Focus on the stock market chaos. Focus. |
1:48.6 | But I think there are two things wrong with this. One is that the polling here isn't clear. Yes, |
1:53.7 | Democrats have become afraid on the issue of immigration. They see that as a winner for Donald Trump. |
1:58.5 | But if you look at the polling on rule of law on due process, |
2:01.5 | to the extent this is framed that way, which it should be, that's actually what this is about, |
2:06.9 | then Democrats are in a much better position. People do not want the Trump administration |
2:12.0 | to be able to randomly disappear people living in this country without due process. |
2:20.5 | But I think this argument reflects a generalized collapse of roles and time across the political system. If this was October |
2:26.5 | 26 and you're running a congressional campaign, then what you focus on is a hard question, |
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