This is Kyle Worley, and I'm joining with my co-host, Jen Wilkin, and J.T. English.

And today we are also joined by Dr. Jeremy Treat. Jeremy is the pastor for preaching and vision at reality, L.A.

And is the author of The Crucified King,

a book we have mentioned many times

and recommended on the show many, many times,

and an introduction to the Atonement

in the Short Studies in Systemic Theology series,

which was endorsed by our very own Jen Wilkins.

Happy to do it?

Easy, yes it Easy yes

Jeremy thanks for jumping on with this man

It's so good to be with you guys

I'm just I love your show

And I'm honored to be a part of it

And just to have the time to hang out with you guys

That's the best part

Yeah man that's how we feel to do with you man

Well yeah that's because you don't know us well.

All right. So, J.T., here's how I want to begin this episode, because as our listeners know, this season, we're moving back and forth between studying the Book of Revelation, diving into some of the core doctrines of the Christian faith. Today we are looking at the doctrine of the atonement.

And, you know, we, we have talked about Jeremy's book, The Crucified King, many times.

And he's told the story a handful of times.

But I want you to tell the story again. of you prepping a lecture that you're giving in like, you know, I'm looking at, I'm

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