Today's duo is a 17-year-old boy and his mother.

And we're talking about something that I think a lot about.

As a parent, how do you transcend the regular run-of-the-mill parent relationship and turn your bond into a real friendship?

I ended up talking to Jessica and Largo for so long that we're going to divide this interview into two episodes.

The first one talks about how Jessica and her partner laid the foundation for a family

who travels together.

When Jessica's two kids were young, she pulled them out of traditional school, began homeschooling

them, and started traveling abroad.

They left the U.S. a decade ago in search of a more authentic path.

And since then, they've lived in an RV in Europe for three years,

learned to sail and cross the Atlantic during COVID.

This has been challenging and insane and delightful and wonderful and sometimes miserable and all of the things.

But Jessica and Largo truly believe that it has brought their family so much closer together.

And that's evidenced by the fact that last year, Jessica and Largo, who was then 16, decided to spend six months of Largo's high school

years, hiking the entire Appalachian Trail together. Yep, just a teenage boy and his mom

hiking the entire Appalachian Trail. So for the first episode,

we're going to get into the family's foundation of travel.

In the second episode,

we're going to talk about how a teenage boy

actually chose to hike the trail with his mom.

Music All right, so let's, let's start out. I'm just going to ask you straight up. Tell me your story from the beginning,

and then I'll interrupt and ask questions. We are Americans. And in 2014, we were living in Boston.

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