A warning. This episode contains discussion of sexual assault that may be disturbing. Listener discretion is advised.

As a note, we reached out to Tim Ballard's attorney to request an interview. Our request went unanswered.

And one last thing. After Tim Ballard left the anti-trafficking organization OUR in 2023, it was renamed OUR Rescue.

Its new leaders say they do not condone Tim Ballard's alleged actions while part of the old organization.

The Tim Ballard of today is very different from the pre-allegation Tim Ballard of 2023.

In many ways, he's almost unrecognizable.

For example, in March 24, Ballard appeared at a political event at Trump's Hotel Mar-a-Lago.

Nothing surprising there.

But here's the twist.

It was an event specifically for Catholics, and not just ordinary Catholics,

but politically active and very conservative Catholics. Now, this is Tim Ballard. The Tim Ballard who wrote books theorizing

about the Founding Fathers being influenced by angels that show up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints literature.

The same Tim Ballard who was a close personal friend of M. Russell Ballard, one of the highest up officials of the LDS Church.

The same Tim Ballard who said he would always be faithful to the LDS Church.

Here he is in an interview in early 2024.

I will never betray the church.

Never denying my testimony of the Book of Mormon.

I will never deny my testimony of Joseph Smith.

You know, I will not do those things. I will not,

I've had all these offers from these, like evangelical churches like, dude, you come, you tell

this story. You can start your own church. You can have a huge, I'll never do that. This is

the Church of Jesus Christ. But just a few months later, he was changing his tune.

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