A warning. This episode contains discussion of sexual assault that may be disturbing.

Listener discretion is advised. As a note, we reached out to Tim Ballard's attorney to request an interview.

Our requests went unanswered. And one last thing. After Tim Ballard left the anti-trafficking

organization OUR in 2023, it was renamed OUR Rescue.

Its new leaders say they do not condone Tim Ballard's alleged actions while part of the old organization.

For the last eight episodes, Leif laid out for you the Tim Ballard story.

The rise, the fall, the friends in high places

who amplified his message, and in a number of ways validated it too. We've also told you

about the troubling allegations of sexual misconduct, the troubling behavior described by people

close to OUR. And as we've discovered,

these issues aren't exclusively about Tim Ballard. They're also about OUR, the organization

he built. Given all the issues swirling around Ballard, it's not surprising OUR Rescue has tried to distance itself from him.

But I don't mean that they just replaced him as CEO and publicly cut ties with him.

I mean, they are really putting some distance between OUR Rescue and Tim Ballard.

The new leadership recently went so far as announcing that OUR Rescue and Tim Ballard. The new leadership recently went so far as announcing that OUR

rescue is moving. And I don't mean a new office building in another part of Utah. They are going

states away, from their home in Salt Lake City to Minneapolis, Minnesota, more than 1,200 miles away.

And this isn't even the biggest news.

Look, I totally get it if the Tim Ballard story is tough to keep track of. Probably seems like a barrage of lawsuits and countersuits. But one of the most intriguing parts of the Tim Ballard

saga is the latest twist in all of the ongoing legal drama.

It's the accusation that Ballard and his associates are themselves guilty of human trafficking.

Honestly, that accusation wasn't really a shock for me.

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