Time to Escape the Comfort Zone | Michael Easter

The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Spartan Races

Fitness, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, 792700

4.7 • 870 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In this hard-hitting episode, bestselling author Michael Easter joins Joe De Sena to discuss the

dangers of our addiction to comfort in the modern world.

They explore how technologies like social media and junk food use the same psychological tricks

as slot machines to hijack our brains. Easter reveals the "scarcity loop" that makes these activities so addictive. They also debate controversial solutions like taxing junk food and mandatory military service.

This thought-provoking discussion will make you rethink everything you thought you knew about comfort - and maybe inspire you to get a little uncomfortable yourself!

Highlights:

00:00 Intro

01:18 Michael Easter’s background

05:02 Lessons learned from skiing

06:27 Parenting mistakes and the danger of technology

09:44 The casino laboratory and a 3-part behavior loop

13:35 The negative consequences of casino games and phones

14:58 Snacking and junk food industry

17:02 Challenging things will make you thrive

20:37 Overeating and managing food

25:26 The power of phones and what to do

28:09 Mandatory military service and recruiting

30:53 Three things everybody should do daily

32:56 How to find Michael?

Transcript

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0:00.0	I live in Las Vegas, slot machines are everywhere, gas stations, bars, grocery stores, and people play
0:04.9	them around the clock, like over and over and over.
0:07.6	And from this I learn about this idea that I call the scarcity loop, and it's basically this three-part behavior loop that is really
0:14.8	great at killing our ability to moderate so it's got opportunity, unpredictable awards
0:19.3	two and three quick repeatability so that's the architecture of how a slot machine works that's the architecture of how a slot machine works. That's the
0:23.6	architecture of how social media works. It's what makes dating apps so enthralling.
0:28.3	It's being put in our new system. I mean, it's being put in all these different
0:31.7	apps and institutions that are really
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1:18.0	Joe DeScenta here, CEO and founder of Spartan and host of the Spartan Up, which is now the Hardway podcast, and I got a really hard guy on today, one of our super guests, Michael Easter, author of The Comfort Crisis. This is a man that I can get along with that you can all get along with because if he sees evil and comfort, he is a friend of ours. Welcome, Michael.
1:43.0	Yeah, thanks for having me, man.
1:45.0	It's good to be back.
1:46.0	Yeah, like, talk to me about, um, about where you grew up, like, I'm always intrigued by people that think our way how did you know why
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