This is Eat Sleep Work Group.

It's a podcast about workplace culture.

Hello, I'm Bruce Dasely.

I've really enjoyed the last couple of episodes and I've been delight in actually

that they've got a good response to us a conversation with Owen Eastwood and

that was really sort of picking his brains about how to great great teams and then prior to that there was a

discussion with Mark Price about how anyone can think about designing culture.

This one continues in the same vein really, another conversation that I really enjoyed having.

It's with Colin Ellis.

Before I introduce that, let me just tell you there's a couple of events coming up.

There's something I'm doing with the squigglies, Helen Tupper and Sarah Ellis, as well as Isabel

Beric from the FT. We're doing an event in December. So look out, if you're interested in that, look out on the newsletter and on

social media because that's going to go on sale, I think, in the next few weeks.

That's an event in December.

I'm also doing something with Christine Armstrong. I often do LinkedIn something with Christine Armstrong.

I often do LinkedIn videos with Christine Armstrong about work and what's happening with work.

And I'm doing something with her predictions for the next few years and that's coming up in

November if you want to go to that one maybe get in touch because I don't think

there's a lot of tickets that are going to be available for that but it is going to be

recorded okay so something's coming up. Today's episode is

a conversation with Colin Ellis. Colin has written a book called Detoxial

Culture and it goes into that thing that we I think we find really fascinating. It's the idea of toxic cultures

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