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The Journal.

Trump 2.0: A Showdown With the Judiciary

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

Daily News, Business News, News

4.25.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

A battle has been brewing between President Trump and the judicial system as courts delay some of the administration's rapid fire executive orders. WSJ’s Jess Bravin joins Ryan Knutson and Molly Ball to discuss the recent clashes between Trump and the courts.  Further Reading: - Chief Justice Roberts Criticizes Trump’s Call to Impeach Judges  - Trump Escalates Push Against Legal Norms  - A Presidency of Upheaval Emboldens Trump  Further Listening: - A New Phase in Trump’s Immigration Fight  - Trump 2.0: The Uncertainty Economy  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, Molly.

0:07.6

Hey, Ryan. Are you ready to talk about all the hot court action this week?

0:11.5

Yes, have you picked your team?

0:14.1

My team? You know I don't take sides?

0:16.5

No, I'm talking about March Madness. March Madness.

0:19.4

Oh, Ryan, I'm way too much of a nerd for that.

0:21.7

I was talking about the judicial branch.

0:24.2

Nerds love basketball too, Molly.

0:26.6

Not this nerd.

0:27.5

Sorry.

0:29.4

Right, okay, the court, yeah, the Supreme Court, the judicial branch.

0:32.6

There is a lot going on there, too, right now.

0:35.6

There is indeed.

0:36.5

It's really heating up.

0:37.7

Did you see this statement from the Chief Justice?

0:40.7

I did see it a pretty remarkable statement this week from the Supreme Court Chief Justice,

0:45.3

John Roberts, who, you know, was nominated by a conservative president, generally votes

0:50.5

with the conservatives on the court. But this statement essentially was calling out

0:54.6

President Trump. Is there a showdown coming between the executive branch and the judiciary?

1:01.6

I think it's already here. It's happening. And it feels it's consequential and it's intentional.

1:07.9

This is something that the administration has put into motion on purpose

1:12.7

in order to both advance their agenda

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