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Campaign HQ with David Plouffe

Trump and Nixon

Campaign HQ with David Plouffe

Cadence13

News, Politics

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Rick Perlstein, author of Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of America, joins David for a comparison of Trump’s campaign tactics with those of Nixon. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody it's David Pluff

0:09.5

it's David Pluff welcome to campaign HQ.

0:11.7

Well it's an understatement to say our country's going through

0:16.7

historic things right now. So I want to be quite brief actually. For me what this

0:21.8

suggests the pandemic, what happened in Minneapolis

0:25.8

and all the heroic and really inspiring protesting. We're seeing Trump's

0:30.8

absurd response to it, gassing his own people, armed troops on the steps of the Lincoln

0:36.7

Memorial trying to divide us by race.

0:39.7

It just again, I think clarifies for us how important this election is and it's all on the line.

0:45.0

I mean if he will do these things now when he's still got to face the voters, what's he

0:49.8

going to be like in a second term? And so I know all you believe this, but I think we're going to

0:56.1

continue to see that Trump has no bottom. He's going to continue to do things and say things

1:00.9

that shock us. I don't think any of this is particularly

1:03.7

helping him politically, he clearly thinks it is, but at the end of the day you know if

1:08.2

you were to write a fictional book or watch some fictional television series

1:12.3

about a president who descends into madness,

1:14.6

you know, you'd shake your head and say they'd never do that, they never do that.

1:17.3

Trump's doing it, we're living through it.

1:18.9

And so I think our only recourse is to win this election, to win it by some margin, so that a message is

1:25.5

sent that Trumpism is going to be rejected, not just Trump himself, but Trumpism.

1:30.1

Doesn't mean we're going to kill it on election day, but we may wound it. We've got to win by enough of a margin here

1:35.8

Joe Biden does to win the Senate back so we can actually enact smart economic policies,

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