Hey everybody's David Plough. Welcome to Campaign HQ. I'm actually recording this on Thursday, June 4th.

So who knows what will happen between now

and when you're listening to this?

Probably things we couldn't imagine or couldn't predict. So my intro will be pretty short just

because of the the time lapse but I think what and this will relate to to to my

guest today all that's happening in the country brings in historic relief, how important this election is.

We've talked about this election every week on this program and its historical significance seems to keep rising in terms of the most elections in history but

what's clear is today fences were being added all around the White House more

troops most disturbed added all around the White House, more troops, most disturbably, folks in military gear with automatic

weapons who were not identified, we still know who they they are are roaming our nation's capital.

It's a state of lawlessness.

Trump has taken to tweeting out law and order,

but what's most important is rule of law and that's on the ballot and is under great

duress right now.

We heard from President Obama on Wednesday, June 3rd and I thought the contrast between

Trump and Obama, not surprisingly, was massive, but what was really interesting

was just Obama focused on policies, what could we do at the local level to improve policing

practices, you know, not phony photo ops and attacks.

He really focused on inspiring us and rather than instigating and really focused on community

and not combat.

And Trump like you so often, he's living in a fantasy world. He and

Avanca and Sean Hannity and Donald Trump Jr. You know they're all trying to

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