Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation.

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We have with us today, Mark Meckler.

He joined us a few months back, actually, to speak about that HR1 bill in Congress.

And here he is going to talk about a fresh issue that has come up.

He is the president of Convention of States Foundation

and Convention of States Action.

Before that, he was the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots.

From February 2021 to May 2021, Mark served as the interim CEO at Parlor,

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