Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

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College has a lot of unusual things about it, each enough to merit a story in itself.

Wyoming Catholic is a conservative Catholic college that educates students in the great books

and Catholic tradition. It also teaches horsemanship and banned cell phones on campus. I love that. And it turned down federal funding.

President Glenn Arbery describes the mission this way.

This college is engaged in deep ways with the agony of a culture that has lost its spiritual center.

We're adventurous and poetic and deeply Catholic.

He likes to cite Dostoevsky in crime and punishment.

Low ceilings are bad for the soul.

The ceilings rise at Wyoming Catholic,

which is located in the foothills of the Wind River Mountains,

the curriculum centers in the Western tradition.

Its Catholic identity builds upon Thomas Aquinas

in the Magisterium of the Catholic Church

and engaging with God

in the wilderness. Find out more at Wyoming Catholic.edu. We have with us Rusty Reno again today.

The boss, he's here again to discuss matters raised in the current public square. His monthly commentary

in the magazine. Welcome Rusty. Hey, great to be with you, Mark. All right, well, your monthly commentary in the magazine. Welcome, Rusty.

Hey, great to be with you, Mark. All right. Well, your opening remarks in this issue of the public square recount a few uplifting episodes in church during your travels. What did you see?

It was in the spring. It was May and June. It was kind of weird. I was really on the road. I was out of town, I think, four Sundays in a row. And the first one, I'm in Lancaster, Pennsylvania for a wedding, wonderful occasion. And, you know, you kind of pick a church to go to on Sunday morning on the basis of time. And I just went into the Stumbled in.

I think of St. Patrick's Church in Lancaster.

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