Trump vs Zelenskyy
Making the Argument with Nick Freitas
Nick Freitas
4.4 • 743 Ratings
🗓️ 4 March 2025
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
Zelenskyy and Trump just had a huge blow-up in the Oval Office right when peace negotiations were about to start. Trump has now frozen all US aid to Ukraine. So what does this mean? What happens next? How is this war likely to end?
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| 0:00.0 | All right, if you manage to walk past any TV showing the news in the last 24 hours, |
| 0:04.8 | you've probably seen a very interesting exchange between President Trump, J.D. Vance, and |
| 0:09.0 | Zelensky. |
| 0:10.0 | And the bottom line is, is you've seen a lot of clips, but there was actually 40 minutes worth of video. |
| 0:14.5 | And most of it was kind of what you'd expect out of that sort of meeting within the Oval Office. |
| 0:19.5 | But it got a little bit heated when Zelensky appeared to say things that maybe weren't directly |
| 0:24.3 | threatening, but kind of suggested to that. |
| 0:26.3 | Well, it's been bad enough that President Trump has decided to freeze aid going to Ukraine |
| 0:31.0 | because the Trump administration has made it very, very evident that they are looking for a peace deal. |
| 0:36.3 | They want to bring the war to an end, |
| 0:38.7 | and they believe that based off of the circumstances on the ground, that's probably going to |
| 0:43.4 | include concessions to both Ukraine and Russia. Obviously, Ukraine doesn't want that. The EU is very |
| 0:49.3 | concerned. Russia seems willing to come to the negotiating deal, but we also know that Putin |
| 0:54.1 | doesn't mind breaking deals. |
| 0:56.1 | So it is a complex situation. |
| 0:57.9 | What we're going to do today on this episode is we're going to actually review what happened in the Oval Office. |
| 1:02.1 | We're going to review what the EU has been saying about it. |
| 1:04.3 | We're also going to do something that I don't think any other podcasts I've seen has done so far. |
| 1:08.6 | And that is try to actually take a look at this |
| 1:11.2 | from the perspective of Ukraine, Russia, Europe, and the United States in order to try to |
| 1:16.8 | determine if there is any sort of reasonable conclusion that can come from all of this. |
| 1:20.8 | All of that and more coming up on this episode of making the argument. I am your host, |
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