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The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hi, I'm Dana Steven, Slate's movie critic, here with a Slate spoiler special podcast on Under the Skin, the new film from the British director Jonathan Glazer.

And joining me here in the flesh in the Slate studio in New York is Dan Koyce. Hey, Dan.

Hello.

Standing at the mic.

That's right. I'm standing at the mic today.

I'm experimenting with how it feels to stand while recording to see if I can exert incredible

influence over Dana who's sitting like some kind of schmow in a chair.

I'm feeling like I'm cowering before you.

I'm going to do it.

I'm going to stand.

I need to raise my mic as well, but I'm going to stand with you right now.

All right. I'm the alien beast who towers over you. Now we can debate

Lincoln Douglas style as it should be debated under the skin, except that I think we probably agree

in most ways on our bizarre, ambivalent and yet exultant relationship to this movie. Yes. Like I

want everyone to see this movie, but I don't want you to be anger at me when you do. And I'm not particularly sure I want to sit through it again. I thought about it for our

conversation, seeing it again. And part of it was just hard to fit into the schedule. But this is

sort of a hard movie to get yourself to see again. It's very intense. Yes. Yes. So

under the skin is sort of a science fiction movie, maybe, or possibly it's a horror film. The inexactness of those

descriptors is sort of a way into thinking about the movie because while it does feature some

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