Oh, Booner on, we're on and today's guess we've got Neil Woods. Nails I form

undercover copper for 14 years. First of all Neil just want to thank you for coming on the show.

No problem.

I think this is the first time I've sat across from my copper and I'm the one that's asking

the questions today, so it's refreshing. So you've released two books, you went undercover, some dark topics

you went worked on. We'll go right back to the start where you grew up and how you get

involved in the life you were involved in?

Yeah well I grew up in I suppose you could call it a sleepy middle class town called

Buxton in the Peak District and but I didn't really realize at the time how sheltered it was but I made a bit of a

daff mistake I went to university by mistake and why I thought that I would enjoy business studies. I have no idea.

But I quickly found out it wasn't for me and I dropped out.

So I went home I was going to go backpacking around Europe.

A couple of my friends had done that. It sounded exciting, but then I saw

an advertisement in the local newspaper for the police. And I thought, well that sounded exciting too,

but I couldn't make my mind up, so I flipped a coin.

And it came up heads, and that's why I applied for the police.

So I suppose you could say I was literally flippant about it.

So I'm flop another coin basically basically put your life in that path.

Yeah. Sometimes that's the best way to do with things. Just flip the coin and roll with it. So when you first

joined the police, how long did it take before you went undercover? Well it's about

four years but I mean I was really crap as uniform cop I was terrible you know I

I couldn't deal with conflict I couldn't work out why people still wanted to keep punching me

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