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the thing. And boom, are you are on.

And boom we're on.

Yeah.

And today's guess we've got gone to sing, how are you?

I'm all right, James.

So nice to finally meet you my mate.

How are you? Really good, mate. Yeah really good mate in fact really I life is going can't complain

but say me my brother yeah that's good then it's a nice sunny day in London so hopefully

we have a good podcast today mate thanks for coming Very interesting story, a man behind the E. D.L.

with Tommy Robinson, who's a good friend with you. You bring out a prison. I know a lot of people.

Listen, there's a lot of mixed reviews with E.L, which we'll touch on.

But you look at the strength of what Tommy's doing now, no matter what you say about the man, the guy is a force.

He's getting over 100,000 people on the streets and...

It's unbelievable what one man can do and of course he'll become a threat especially if people don't agree with him.

Obviously he's been cancelled, he's been put in prison.

It's mad, but you're very well connected with him and like I say the ideal was it founded in what 2009?

English fantasy, well I think United people looting which was a United people looting the UPL which was what Tommy and Kevin Carroll

etc they started first I think that started around about the 2008 part but when

that started gaining a lot of momentum. They created it into the English

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