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With today's guest with band Davis Dan, how are we?

Not too bad, James, how are you?

Really good.

First and four most thanks for coming on the show.

Not at all.

Book offer, but the book now will plug straight away that you wrote in plain sight the life and

lives of Jimmy Savo.

For me, one of the most evil men in the UK who was never convicted,

untouchable possibly with his people who robbed shoulders with, but people are still fascinated

with this stuff and this man for some reason never charged,

apparently 500 victims majority under 18 like you lived at first hand with the guy for a few years to kind of

understand him and it's a yeah listen powerful book I led like I said earlier

snippets just to get an understanding of it myself I don't know anyone I know

elw through kind of done the documentary and and yourself who were yeah with

the man but how are you I'm yeah, I'm not too bad.

I mean, it's sort of, it feels like a long time ago, but it also feels quite present.

Yeah, you know, the BBC drama that's based on the book, The Reckoning came out last October and that sort of

stirred a lot of still waters, you know, it's like, I think having been in this story and agonized over it for a long time and not got to the truth while he was alive because he did evade the truth or he did evade capture very successfully for more than 84 years.

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