Hello and welcome to Popcast Deluxe your long-worthy Knights when my days once revolved around you

of weekly cultural review on the John Caramonica critic of the New York Times.

I'm Joe Cuskerelli, I'm a reporter at the New York Times.

Joe, it's Big Things Coming LLC.

It's real things.

It's raw thoughts.

The raw's thoughts on Bob Gas Deluxe this week.

Loyal viewers know very well that part of our longstanding lore, the thing that binds us and sometimes

tears us asunder is Taylor Swift, the career of Taylor Swift, us and the rest of the world.

And everybody who checks in on us, whether in video clip form or in full form. We both interviewed Taylor, written

extensively about Taylor, literally written about Taylor since her first

single. I brought something today that I was going to wear, but it's a little tight.

Because it's from 2008 or 2009.

This is merch from in-between album one, I think. I think I got it while reporting the story that I wrote in

oh nine Taylor Swift.com early yeah the logo on the back says Taylor Swift. Early URL.

Point being Taylor Swift is an animating force

in our careers.

For better, I would say only infrequently for worse, but definitely for better most of the time.

And so we wanted to have a particularly big episode of Deluxe this week, and one thing that we've been touring with is we really got to rank the albums.

And it's like, I know you go on the internet, it's like you can't open up an app, a social media thing without seeing a ranking and like these are not those

rankings yeah like literally like apologies to that man truly these are the rankings.

And I think they're going to be very different.

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