Welcome to Popcast Deluxe, your can't band The Snowman of Weekly Cultural Review.

I'm John Caramonica, a critic at the New York Times.

I'm Joe Cosskereli, I'm a reporter at the New York Times.

Joe, every week I look at the Billboard Hot 100 when it comes out.

I do this a lot and I would say many times this year,

I have been like what?

Every week, Benson Boone, he just keeps

persisting.

Teddy Swins.

Uh, no, I think this year, perhaps more than any year, certainly in recent memory, and perhaps for quite a long time, the Hot 100 feels absolutely lawless. It's totally up for grabs. You know you look over on

the album charts and you're just like it's Taylor, it's Torture Poets

Department, it's like you know like call Billy Eilish Morgan Wellen. Yeah it's like you know like call Billy Eilish Morgan well.

Yeah, it's like I know I understand that.

But the stratification between the album charts on the single charts

feels really, really wide.

And you know, you think it's the year of Taylor and all those people

you just mentioned and in fact it is the year of Shibuzi yeah in fact it is the year of Shaboozy. Yeah. In fact, it is the year of Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah.

It is the year of Tommy Richmond. Benson Boone. Teddy Swims.

It's the decade of Benson.

It is. You know how they say, you know? It's the decade of Benson, but he's.

You know how they say you, some years are a year,

and some years are a decade?

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