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What Mahmoud Khalil's arrest means for ... everyone

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Mahmoud Khalil, a legal permanent resident and Columbia alum, was detained by ICE for his role in leading pro-Palestinian protests at his former university last year. As Khalil's case has captured the nation's attention, free speech advocates see it as a test of the First Amendment. Meanwhile, the Trump administration argues they have the right to deport Khalil without charging him with a crime. On this episode, why Khalil's arrest should worry all of us.

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0:00.0

What's good? You're listening to Code Switch from NPR. I'm Gene Demby.

0:05.2

And I'm B.A. Parker.

0:07.4

Parker, I want to take you back to a moment in one of Trump's State of the Union speeches from his first term.

0:12.5

Okay. In the last two years, our brave ICE officers made 266,000 arrests.

0:23.4

And then Trump does that thing that presidents do in these speeches, you know, where

0:28.0

they like shout out regular Americans in the audience to make a point about how their

0:32.6

policies are good, actually.

0:34.5

We are joined tonight by one of those law enforcement heroes, ICE Special Agent Elvin

0:41.9

Hernandez.

0:43.8

Trump goes on to make the point that Elvin and his family legally immigrated to the U.S.

0:47.9

from the Dominican Republic, and then he talks about the importance of what he calls

0:51.3

legal immigrants in the United States.

0:54.6

Legal immigrants enrich our nation and strengthen our society in countless ways.

1:05.8

Fast forward to earlier this month, Parker, and near the Columbia University campus, and this

1:10.2

is according to a court filing, an ICE agent that identified himself as Elvin Hernandez is one of the agents

1:17.1

there to arrest a recent Columbia graduate named Mahmoo Khalil.

1:21.3

Mahmoud and his very pregnant wife are coming home from an Iftar dinner.

1:25.5

Yeah, because it's Ramadan.

1:26.5

Yeah, because it's Ramadan. Yeah, because it's Ramadan.

1:31.5

And as they got to their apartment, the agents are there, and Mahmoud Khalil is handcuffed.

1:33.8

His wife actually recorded that moment on her phone.

1:35.7

You're going to be under arrest.

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