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With measles on the rise, what we can learn from past epidemics

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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As the U.S. health system grapples with new outbreaks and the risk of old diseases making a comeback, we're looking to the past to inform how people in marginalized communities can prepare themselves for how the current administration might handle an epidemic. On this episode, a conversation with historian and author Edna Bonhomme, about her latest book A History of the World in Six Plagues.

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0:00.0

Singapore is one of the busiest cities in the world.

0:03.1

But biologist Philip Johns is fascinated by a different inhabitant on the island.

0:09.0

Otters.

0:09.8

At rush hour, downtown, the otters would swim toward each other,

0:13.4

and they're literally tens of thousands of people who are on their way to work.

0:17.0

How ideas, emotions, and creatures coexist.

0:20.9

That's next time on the TED Radio Hour from NPR.

0:25.0

Hey, everyone, you're listening to Code Switch,

0:27.5

the show about race and identity from NPR.

0:30.5

I'm B.A. Parker.

0:32.5

So, I want to tell you about someone.

0:35.9

Her name is Edna Bonhomme.

0:37.8

Now, Edna is Haitian American, and when she was a little girl in 1980s, Miami, she started running a very high fever, so high that her frightened appearance had to take her to the hospital.

0:51.0

I had typhoid fever that experience of feeling confined, not knowing what was going

0:56.9

on, being separated from my parents temporarily, and how that elicited, at least at the time, and even

1:05.4

subconsciously now, a sense of loss, of sense of loss of control more specifically.

1:13.5

That moment of isolation was compounded by the fact that she was Haitian

1:18.2

at a time when her community had been singled out by the CDC.

1:22.9

The CDC had deemed these groups the 4-Hs, homosexuals, heroin users, hemophiliacs, and Haitians,

1:30.0

as high risk of spreading HIV and AIDS. That was all a myth.

1:35.6

The Haitians in particular were vilified for no other reason than what I would consider to be

1:43.0

anti-blackness. I would say that even with the anti-Hatian, anti-queer rhetoric that was being purported in the U.S.

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