I think it's really sad that at this point in this American experiment that

identities are anchored in our opinions instead of our values, right?

So I define myself based on what I believe is true and false.

As opposed to saying I define myself as somebody who values generosity and freedom or curiosity

and integrity. And I think one of the missed opportunities I think for in a lot of these

conversations is to say, you know what, regardless of what you believe is true or false,

let's talk about what you think is important. I'm Melaria Baldwin and I'm Alec Baldwin

and this is our podcast What's One More? Our guest today can talk about so much. He's a fascinating

intellectual who covers a lot of ground. He's a best-selling author of five books. He's been named

40 under 40 by Fortune Magazine and he was the youngest 10-year professor at Wharton

at the age of 28. His TED talks have been viewed over 25 million times and he hosts the TED

original podcast work life. We are excited to chat with Adam Grant today.

We want to delve into what makes people original thinkers, how we can be better leaders,

and what things make him optimistic. Plus, finding inspiration in what we can do and

battling the negative mindset in those around us. His new TED talk on languishing is available now.

Here's our conversation with Adam Grant.

I'm a perfect example of toxic positivity. Like, if I'm giving advice to somebody, like with you,

you know, you're like sad about something and I'm like, but isn't it really great to like just

be alive today? And I'm not allowing you happy feelings. Adam, am I explaining that properly?

Yeah, I think it's actually interesting to think about it as something internal as opposed to

social. When I think about toxic positivity, I think about the pressure that people feel

to always put on a happy face and smile and be upbeat no matter what, which just completely

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