Hey, friends, the Exiles of Babylon Conference is just a couple months away. April 3rd, 5th. We are talking about all kinds of intriguing topics.

Gospel and race after George Floyd. We're talking about transgender people in the church.

We're talking about, is the evangelical church good for this country? And we're also having several talks on social justice and the gospel from different angles,

lots of breakout sessions, several different after-party options.

And it's going to be a absolute barn burner of a conference.

Go to TheologyNorrah.com to check it out.

And I would highly recommend registering sooner than later if you plan on attending live,

especially because space is limited. and it is filling up.

So Theology Raw.com, check it out.

My guest today is Dr. Mark Tyson Nation, who has authored and edited a number of books,

including two books on Bonhofer.

He's a Bonhofer scholar.

His first book is called Bonhofer, the assassin, question mark, and discipleship in a world full of Nazis.

For 16 years, he was a professor of theology at Eastern Mennonite Seminary, and before that,

he was a director of the London Mennonite Center in London, England.

This episode is all about Diedrich Bonhofer, the man, the myth, and the legend.

Really fascinating conversation.

And Mark is one of the few Bonhofer scholars in the world.

So I think you'll find, if you're into Bonhoeff,

you have questions about Bonhoffer, you know, was he a pacifist?

Did he try to kill Hitler?

We talked about those things.

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