Hey, friends. The Axel's conference is right around the corner, April 3rd to 5th in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

If you haven't registered yet, you need to do so ASAP if you plan on coming.

Theology in the raw.com. All the information is there. You can attend live in person or you can stream it from your living room.

Again, Theologyinar.com. All the information is there. Okay, my guest today is my good friend, Dr. Nijey Gupta,

who earned his PhD in New Testament from Durham University in England, and he currently serves

as Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. He's written a bunch of books, including

strange religion, tell her story, and his newest release is The Affections of Christ Jesus, love at the heart of Paul's theology.

We geek out a bit on Pauline Studies, Pauline theology, and kind of the history or the last 50 years or so of different movements going on to Pauline Studies.

And then we dig deep into this idea, which is very

compelling, that love is at the heart of Paul's theology. So really enjoy this conversation. It's a

blend of academia and some really, really practical stuff, especially in the latter half of the

conversation. So please welcome back to the show, the one and only, my good friend, Dr. Nijey

Gupta.

Nij Gupta. How are you this morning? I'm doing very well. How are you?

I'm doing well, man. Good to see you again. I don't know what number this is.

I don't know, but I was thinking I should get like a dinner jacket with Theology in the

raw. It's kind of like the SNL, five-timers club. I'm getting close. Yeah. Well, you're one of

the few guests who have actually driven through Boise. I have. We should have. We hung out with you at a baseball game. Yes. Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now, you're still out in your...

Portland.

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