Why ‘No Climate, No Deal’ Makes Sense with Jamal Raad

Battleground with Amanda Litman and Faiz Shakir

The Recount

Government, News, Politics

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🗓️ 22 July 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

ExxonMobil, and other major polluters like it, would love for you to feel like your personal choices are what will make or break this climate crisis, but the truth is, global warming can only be slowed through massive, systemic changes to the energy, transportation, and building sectors. Legislators must pass new laws curbing emissions, and the reconciliation bill winding its way through Congress is the best, and possibly last, chance to get this right. Amanda and Faiz talk to Jamal Raad, the co-founder and executive director of Evergreen Action, a climate advocacy group fighting to ensure that real action on climate change doesn’t get derailed by politicians bought by the oil and gas industry. The trio discusses why clean energy standards need to be in the reconciliation bill; how Republicans aren’t interested in good faith negotiations; and whether climate advocacy groups should continue to focus their energy and ire at Biden and the Democrats, or pivot towards Republicans.

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0:00.0	I'm Amanda Litman, and this is Battleground, a podcast from the recount and I-Hard radio.
0:14.3	Faz is taking a couple weeks off to spend time with his fresh new baby, so I am handling
0:19.1	this episode intro solo, but he was able to join me for this week's conversation with
0:23.7	Jamal Rod.
0:24.7	Jamal is the co-founder and executive director of Evergreen Action, a climate change advocacy
0:29.6	group that's been pushing Democrats to act as aggressively as we can on climate change,
0:35.2	especially as they write the reconciliation bill that is very slowly making its way through
0:40.4	Congress.
0:41.4	I will be the first to admit that I am not particularly well-versed on climate change,
0:46.7	at least not as well as I am on some of the other issues that we've covered on the show.
0:50.1	It's not because they don't care or because I'm not particularly interested.
0:53.7	I am.
0:54.7	I think like a lot of people it just feels like there's so much science clearly in favor
0:59.2	of action and so much Republican abstinence against action that it feels like a place where
1:06.3	the overwhelming partisanship means the world might end and there's not much we can do
1:11.3	about it.
1:12.4	But I don't think that's true, that just is how I feel.
1:15.6	So I'm really glad we were able to invite Jamal onto the podcast.
1:18.8	He understands the politics around global warming and climate change incredibly well, because
1:23.6	he's been involved in trying to pass substantive legislation to address it since 2009 when
1:28.2	he worked on the Waxman-Markey bill.
1:30.2	That was the last time Congress tried to pass meaningful climate change legislation.
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