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What's good? You're listening to Code Switch? I'm Gene Demby.

When President Trump took office in January again, one of his administration's first orders of

business was to make good on a campaign promise to deport thousands of immigrants from the United

States. The government has moved swiftly in that direction and often really messily.

The United States is now in uncharted territory when it comes to immigration policy.

There are now a bunch of lawsuits against the Trump administration for carrying out its deportations, deportations that happen regardless of the subject's status in this country.

Several judges have ruled that the White House had violated the due process rights of the people that rounded up,

or they've told the government that it could not deport people to countries they're not from and have no ties to.

And after the Trump administration got rid of legal protections for people from certain countries, countries like Venezuela, a different judge ruled that the White House had to cut it out and said that, quote, acting on the basis of a negative group stereotype and generalizing such stereotypes to the entire group is the classic example of racism, end quote.

But the Trump administration is very decidedly not cutting it out.

And some legal scholars have said that we are witnessing a full-blown constitutional crisis,

with the courts telling the White House that it could not do something because it's unlawful,

and the White House just going ahead and doing it anyway.

Sergio Martinez Beltran covers immigration for NPR.

And he's been trying to make sense of these stories.

And he's been talking to a lot of families who have been swept up in it.

Serio, first of all, welcome to Code Switch.

Hey, Gene, it's so good to be with you.

Okay, so we know broadly that you cover immigration, but obviously that's a giant portfolio

right now.

So what exactly have you been looking into more narrowly?

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