Why We (Still) Think the Grammys Are Good Now

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The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

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🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Big wins for Beyoncé, Kendrick Lamar and Chappell Roan. Standout performances from Doechii and Sabrina Carpenter. A conversation about why the 2025 awards worked. Guests: Joe Coscarelli, Caryn Ganz, Jon Pareles and Lindsay Zoladz.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your men need to step up of music, news, and criticism.
0:06.8	I'm your host, John Caramonica.
0:08.5	Sixteen carriages driving away while I watched them ride with my dreams away to the summer sunset on a holy night, on a long long black road all the tears I fight.
0:23.7	Sixteen carriages driving away while I watch them ride with my dreams away.
0:30.9	Why do men need to step up, you might ask?
0:32.9	Well, boy, do I have an answer for you.
0:34.5	It is the Monday post-game Grammy post-mortem popcast episode.
0:40.4	The whole gang is here.
0:42.7	Lindsay's old lads is here.
0:43.9	J.P. is here.
0:45.0	Joe Koskarelli is here.
0:46.6	Terrant Gans is here.
0:47.8	We were all up late.
0:48.7	Well, most of us were up late.
0:50.6	The Grammys were last night. And as Joe and I mentioned in the preview episode,
0:55.3	generally speaking, we thought a lot of the nominations were like pretty on the mark.
1:00.1	And one of the things that happened, our long national nightmare is over.
1:05.5	Beyonce has won album of the year for Cowboy Carter.
1:09.0	Yay.
1:10.7	We may get into the merits of this album of the year for Cowboy Carter. Yay. We may get into the merits of this album of the year,
1:15.1	Beyonce nomination versus other Beyonce albums.
1:18.6	It's going to be a long episode in front of us.
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