Hi, my name is Kirsten Vangis.

You might recognize me if you put a flower and a pen in my hand as Penelope Garcia, the adorable

tech kitten from the longest running show in the universe Colonel Mines.

I get to be on the Big League podcast, which I am so delighted by and also terrified.

You get to hear Mike and Gay ask me questions,

and we talk about creativity,

and I, of course, talk about my vagina,

which my mom keeps betting me.

I'm not going to talk about in every interview,

but I keep not winning that bet. And we talk about the blinking all

distillery and we talk about Kirsten's agenda and we talk about all kinds of things. And I try

to stay calm and be less self-deprecating moment by moment, which is my pleasure to do in this wonderful podcast that I am

gobsmacked that I get to be part of. And I know that sounds extreme. And I know I'm drinking

buddies with Pollyanna, but this is true. It's, I'm that excited about it. So do join us. Here we are.

Wow. Thank you, Kirsten. And yes, we talk about all sorts of stuff

and invite you to meet this remarkable woman who is living in her genius zone and doing all

sorts of amazing things with her life. And all I have to say is, holy cow, she's brilliant, she's delicious, she's yummy, she's cuddly, really, really funny, a bundle of energy.

Total joy to be with, so enjoy this episode of The Big Leap.

You inside? Welcome to our Big Leap podcast.

Mike and I have a wonderful show for you today, one that I've been looking forward to for a long time and so glad we got it arranged.

We have a guest on our podcast today who's taken many, many big leaps in her life and really inspired me.

And I have just fallen madly in love with her many years ago. And then I finally got to meet her a while back.

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