Will loneliness kill remote work cultures? With Noreena Hertz

Eat Sleep Work Repeat

Bruce Daisley

Management, Workplace Culture, Science, Work, Business, Culture, Social Sciences

4.7 • 989 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Over the last few weeks the newsletters that have achieved the most resonance were related to having a friend at work. For many of us our favourite jobs were enhanced by having a desk buddy - or a group of friends we could laugh with. But for many people their experience of work is increasingly lonely - maybe they had friends when they were in the office but that experience has transformed in the last two years. Yes, we've managed to get our jobs done, maybe our domestic life has even improved but work just feels a little more isolated and joyless.

How big an issue is this for us? Noreena Hertz is here to persuade you this silent spread of loneliness has wide reaching consequences, both for our organisations and for our societies.

In a brilliant and wide-ranging discussion we discuss why loneliness matters and what any of us should be thinking about to make our experience of work more complete. If you enjoyed this then this week's newsletter covers adjacent themes: sign up here

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0:00.0	Hello this is Eat Sleep, Work Repeat, I'm Bruce Dazley, to podcast about making work better.
0:11.2	Thank you for listening.
0:12.2	It's been really interesting over the last
0:15.0	few weeks, or trying to put together a lot of conflicting and confusing things that are going
0:21.8	on. There's been some really interesting stuff
0:24.4	written. One of the things that really struck me was there's some commentary
0:28.3	about a new book that's coming out in the US by a former guest of the
0:31.7	podcast and that is Anne Helen Peterson.
0:34.4	She's written a book with her partner, Charlie Wiesel.
0:37.2	And that's really about how debating how, to some extent, how the idea of workplace culture was a trap to try to engage
0:46.8	just to work harder and care more about our job.
0:50.8	It paints quite a cynical perspective on the way that we're working, almost suggesting that
0:59.2	remote work allows us to renegotiate this, so we're just doing tactical blocks of work.
1:04.2	And what I think it misses to my mind is that there is something more fundamental that
1:10.0	actually connecting with the people around us can be part of the reason why work is so
1:15.4	enriching and enjoyable. There's something that was in some work by a academic called
1:21.6	Zay and Eppetone a couple of years ago that I'm going to do a revisited
1:26.5	podcast in a couple of weeks and she studied retail workers.
1:30.8	She studied people who work in supermarkets and what she found was that
1:34.4	you know look superficially we might say well you know this job wouldn't be that rewarding
1:40.6	but actually there was something about the camaraderie, there was something about
1:45.6	the fact that they were in service of the customers there that was incredibly rewarding people
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