Hey everyone, I'm Andrea Ferretti and this is Yoga Land.

Today I'm so happy to welcome back to the podcast Judith Hanson Lasseter and Lizzie Lasseter. Judith as you know is a PhD. She's a physical, and she's taught yoga around the world since

1971. She is the author of 11 books including her most recent teaching yoga with

intention. Lizzy Lasseter began teaching vigniazza Yoga in 2005

before earning her masters in architecture

from Columbia University.

These days she lives in Salzburg

with her husband and her four-year-old twin boys,

while she also produces yoga online courses with her mom.

So the framework for today's conversation is the yoga of menopause. They are Lizzie and Judith and their co-collaborator Mary Richards are creating an online course that's coming up all about

paramenopause and menopause and yoga and I just was felt so

compelled to talk to them. I used to get a little nervous every time I would talk to Judith. You may know that

Judith started Yoga Journal magazine many years ago and so I would see her around the office for years when I

worked there and I would always stand up a little straighter and try to be a

little bit more seem a little bit more knowledgeable when she was around. But I genuinely

just leaned into this conversation today and enjoyed them both so much and both of their perspectives. The three of us really span the years, right? So Lizzy is just starting

parapause. I'm kind of just going through menopause, and Judith is beyond

menopause. So we had a great time connecting on so many things on you know the

challenges, some of the grief that comes with it

certainly the wisdom that comes with it and the way that we can create a

practice a yoga practice,

that meets us and serves us and becomes a refuge for us

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