This idea that we should reduce our animal products for any number of reasons is grossly irresponsible.

On this week's podcast, I had the pleasure of talking to my friend Dr. Gabrielle Lyon.

She has a new book out called Forever Strong, where she talks about the importance of muscle for longevity.

There are so many conversations around longevity now.

It's just in vogue to talk about.

And I just don't think that the key to longevity

is nutty putting caloric restriction

and 100 pills a day or a million different technological biohacks. I think it's good quality

nutrition maintaining muscle mass and so enjoy this conversation with Gabriel Lyons. She has a very

unique perspective on this. She still sees patients, which I appreciate. Her clinical expertise is incredible and she is in the trenches working with people and has seen so many people improve by increasing their consumption of, you guessed it,

planned protein, no, not plant protein,

animal protein and organs.

And we talk about all kinds of cool stuff in this podcast.

So check her out, check her new book, Forever Strong Out,

and enjoy the value that I think is in this

podcast.

Dr. Gabriel Lyon, thank you for coming on the podcast.

It's great to have you.

Congratulations on the release of your new book.

Thank you, my friend.

Thanks so much for having me. It's been a long time coming.

I know it's been too long we haven't hung out in person. So I have a question for you to start.

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