Hello, hello there, good listener. I am your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to

the Pure Desire podcast, your biblically based and clinically informed approach to healing from

betrayal and breaking free from compulsive sexual behavior. Today is episode 382 and I am joined by my co-host

Ashley Jamison. Ashley, good to have you. How are you doing? I'm so happy to be here.

This is, we've just been working up to this for what a year or something about? I think maybe a year

and a half. Yeah, it's a long time in the making. Yeah, it feels like a wedding, a birth.

I mean, you're waiting all year for something great and wonderful.

And we have all these new stats.

And I'm really excited to share them and talk about them.

Yeah. So that's the point today is we're going to be starting an eight-part series.

For those that are regular podcast listeners, you can expect about the next two months

to focus around this and interviewing guests who were a part of the new report from

Barna beyond the porn phenomenon the project that we've been working on with them it's

chock full of new stats and data around pornography use views on sexuality in our culture

the impact that pornography has on

marriage and relationships. And today we're launching this eight-part series with the man himself,

the president of Barna, Mr. David Kinnaman. So Ashley, thoughts on today's episode and the

conversation we had with David and what our listeners might

expect from today. Yeah. Well, I surprised, I was surprised myself how much I enjoyed this episode

because those who know me know that I, I'm not a numbers person or a detailed person or

scripted person. And that's very much what research is. And so I was like, oh, this is just

going to be a lot of numbers and data and research. And it, oh, this is just going to be a lot of numbers and

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