I don't know. To me, if I started doing TikTok, it would, it's like the equivalent of like a bald middle-aged man trying to drive a Lamborghini.

You know what I mean? It's like, I can podcast of Bourbon, bringing to you the best in news, reviews, and interviews with people making the bourbon whiskey industry happen, and I'm one of your hosts, Kenny Coleman.

When I'm playing around in the kitchen, I like to call myself a chef, but the reality is I'm not even close to being one.

But thankfully, we've got some connections, and we can bring real chefs on the show.

So coming back for his first appearance since 2016, we have Chef Edward Lee. And in this time, we're

to talk about some cooking, but we're here to talk about his new book called Burbent Land.

And Chef Lee shares his unexpected journey to Louisville and how he transformed his career at 610

Magnolia by highlighting the importance of local ingredients and bourbon in his dishes. We get into

the allocation game and he addresses

the challenges of dealing with distributors because who doesn't love talking about that? Because we

all deal with distress. But we also want to help promote everything that happens in the world

of bourbon and cooking, especially what he delves in with Asian cuisines. And as social media

shifts the culinary landscape, we have all kinds

of people that are influencers on there. And he discusses the balance between authenticity and

engagement and who you can trust and what trends or might actually be worthy of following on TikTok.

In this conversation, it does take a lot of turns, but don't miss Chef Leaves' new book

called Bourbon Land,

featuring over 50 recipes that are now available in bookstores and online.

And with that, enjoy this week's episode, and now here's Fred Minnick with Above the Char.

I'm Fred Minnick, and this is Above the Char.

This week's idea comes from Nick.

He writes me on fredminic.com.

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