Rade humano papachango. Oh, Hey there. Think about things that are difficult to do. Like if you made a list of things that are hard to do

Being a parent would be close to or at the top of that list, right?

Especially of a baby, you know, like a screaming,

muling, drooling, not sleeping when you want it to sleep, little totally dependent baby.

Man, forget it too much for me anyway I think most of us would agree that's a really

difficult thing to do for two parents, you know, which is as good as it gets I guess in Western culture, but it's way too much for two parents, and certainly way too much for one

parent, but people do it. Now take other things from that list. Another thing that would be on

the list would be hiking the Pacific Crest Trail, right?

From Canada, all the way down to Southern California.

Now, put those two things together.

And you've got today's guest.

Jack McClure just wrote a book or just published a book just came out yesterday.

It's called You Carry the Tent, I'll Carry the Baby, and it's the story of Jack and his wife Elena and their little

baby hiking the fucking Pacific Crest Trail from Canada to Mexico.

Their daughter was nine months old, I think, when they left.

1500 miles with a baby. I don't know. I don't know. Some people the

things people do I mean come on now anyway I got an email

from Jack a few weeks ago you know one these emails, hey I listen to your podcast and I did

this thing and I don't know if you'd be willing to talk about it, have me on your

podcast, and I had him send me a PDF of the book and I thought, well, look, I'll read, I'll read a little bit of it and if it's competently written, you know, because the thing

is I'm caught between opposing agendas here, right?

Like I want to help him out and I'm interested in talking to

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