And like if you want to remove things from the arena of moralism or like, you know, trying to you,

to engage with politics like it's a terrain of morality, which is always fraud and usually, you know, difficult to do.

You know, it's, it's, you're on, you're on thin ice whenever you do that.

But I'm just thinking strategically here, if you're so desperate to vote and feel good about it, that you'll look the other way on something

like what America is doing to Gaza.

Not the Republican Party, not Donald Trump, but the Democratic Party of the United States of America, like the American

government, what they've done to Gaza and the Palestinian people for the last nine months, then really

what you're saying is like what can't they do that you wouldn't support and that they won't assume that your support is already baked in because if they can get away with doing that

Like I mean where is that where is the line for you? Yeah and like and does that does that put the pugwethive movement in a stronger position than before I mean I don't know make me the argument here.

Yeah and it really is it's all of a peace there's no sequestering this issue.

It is all the peace.

Yeah people in England people in England. People in England thought,

Kere Starmer is mostly good except for this is real stuff,

but you know what, he's soft left, he'll be fine.

They are starving children. They just sign the Star of Children Act. It's always of a piece.

That's I mean that's the other side to this here is because like you can say that like oh like

it must be nice to be a one-issue voter like to have the privilege to be a one-issue

voter oh your purity test unlike you know like because you know like hey like you live in this

country and I care about the rights of people in this country which would be imperiled

by like you know Project 2025 or whatever.

And fair enough, that's true.

But the flu side of this is like on Israel

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